If you don't, go flex your googling skills then blurt it here..
Sick, bastards..
Ok, ok. Maybe that was the record lamest opening for a blog ever done on GM in all of time, even back when it was cave painting and woodcut.
SOME folks have used some Freudian theories to justify thier stand on things in this other blog (the whole faults thing). TOTAL BUNK, or just my opinion..
While I agree for sure with the subconcious thing, I can't get behind the idea that people are driven with little awareness of their concious thought. I have two words for the Freudian take.. CAA-RAAP!! Same reason I don't believe in the devil. People are totally capable of taking personal responsibility in their own actions.
Don't get me started on the whole psychosexual thing, lest ye' be wantin a rant..
If you know, just blurt it here..
If you don't, go flex your googling skills then blurt it here..
Sick, bastards..
Ok, ok. Maybe that was the record lamest opening for a blog ever done on GM in all of time, even back when it was cave painting and woodcut.
SOME folks have used some Freudian theories to justify thier stand on things in this other blog (the whole faults thing). TOTAL BUNK, or just my opinion..
While I agree for sure with the subconcious thing, I can't get behind the idea that people are driven with little awareness of their concious thought. I have two words for the Freudian take.. CAA-RAAP!! Same reason I don't believe in the devil. People are totally capable of taking personal responsibility in their own actions.
Don't get me started on the whole psychosexual thing, lest ye' be wantin a rant..
HTPN-I think Freud would get busy in The Gay Punk deal. (Do men really have Penis Envy? Because I don't know one woman who has it, that I know of, but we do envy physical strength.) Consider that we like being able to do it without a potency factor and the ability to multi, if you get my drift. Not to mention the reproducing ability, minus the monthly moon. Its' a trade off. Prowler-Did you ever consider that your ex was having this dream because of her subconsious fear that you required her to beget you children and that you would leave her if she didn't deliver? I'm honestly telling you that this is a much more likely and typical reason for this dream (fear of loosing YOU) than what you came up with. For the overwhelming majority of human existance, a barren woman was a curse and she was considered, and considered herself, less than a woman if barren. Overpopulation changed it. Nightbringer-A woman is a man with a womb. We are two sexes of the same species-mankind. Women share the same drives. Society and survival of our kind has put limitations on the female psyche. We have had to succumb to men. Please don't disregard that. Women can and always have been lorded over tyrannically by men. If we are part of your rib why don't you protect us? I have had to be the man for many years. Many men now expect women to support them. We process things in the brain differently, but we have all the same processes.
HTPN-I think Freud would get busy in The Gay Punk deal. (Do men really have Penis Envy? Because I don't know one woman who has it, that I know of, but we do envy physical strength.) Consider that we like being able to do it without a potency factor and the ability to multi, if you get my drift. Not to mention the reproducing ability, minus the monthly moon. Its' a trade off. Prowler-Did you ever consider that your ex was having this dream because of her subconsious fear that you required her to beget you children and that you would leave her if she didn't deliver? I'm honestly telling you that this is a much more likely and typical reason for this dream (fear of loosing YOU) than what you came up with. For the overwhelming majority of human existance, a barren woman was a curse and she was considered, and considered herself, less than a woman if barren. Overpopulation changed it. Nightbringer-A woman is a man with a womb. We are two sexes of the same species-mankind. Women share the same drives. Society and survival of our kind has put limitations on the female psyche. We have had to succumb to men. Please don't disregard that. Women can and always have been lorded over tyrannically by men. If we are part of your rib why don't you protect us? I have had to be the man for many years. Many men now expect women to support them. We process things in the brain differently, but we have all the same processes.
I think Freud would get busy in The Gay Punk deal, at least think about it pretty deeply. He has some serious issues himself. (Do men really have Penis Envy? Because I don't know one woman who has it that I know of.) Consider that we like being able to do it without a potency factor and the ability to multi, if you get my drift. Not to mention the reproducing ability, minus the monthly moon. Its' a trade off. But then again, society is different now and women are allowed to be openly sexual.
I think Freud would get busy in The Gay Punk deal, at least think about it pretty deeply. He has some serious issues himself. (Do men really have Penis Envy? Because I don't know one woman who has it that I know of.) Consider that we like being able to do it without a potency factor and the ability to multi, if you get my drift. Not to mention the reproducing ability, minus the monthly moon. Its' a trade off. But then again, society is different now and women are allowed to be openly sexual.
Ravenmad2000 write: Prowler...What techniques counteract or quell the behaviour of the office psychopath/workplace bully?
The office Psychopath in many cases will never become apparent to most due to the intelligence of their methods.
The bottom line is, these people are dangerous and need to be exposed. Just as I managed to expose the guy in my Platoon.
In many cases this is difficult. because these office Psychopaths live to be the top of their game, their extremly driven and in many cases extremly good at their jobs. often charming fitting well in the social circle and are often liked by many. The way they fuck people over is done in such a sly way many wont see it.
They need to be caught Commiting a deviant act!
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Ravenmad2000 write: Prowler...What techniques counteract or quell the behaviour of the office psychopath/workplace bully?
The office Psychopath in many cases will never become apparent to most due to the intelligence of their methods.
The bottom line is, these people are dangerous and need to be exposed. Just as I managed to expose the guy in my Platoon.
In many cases this is difficult. because these office Psychopaths live to be the top of their game, their extremly driven and in many cases extremly good at their jobs. often charming fitting well in the social circle and are often liked by many. The way they fuck people over is done in such a sly way many wont see it.
Ravenmad2000 write: What percentage of psychopaths were raised in a religious environment?
If I remember, rightly, I found many serial murderers were raised by mothers who were extremely over-bearing and fanatically religious, to the point of cruel. Charlie Manson broke the pattern...he was brought up by his grandmother who had these traits.
Am I right?
I do believe Psychopathic traits are a product of Nuture as much as nature. Ed Gein had religious fanatic parents which were very strict and oppressive.
Ted Buddy for some kind of legal thing, cant remember what, was made to address his mother as an older sister and not mother. How would that fuck up a little boy.
Generally in many Serial Killers there seems to be some Childhood degrading or abuse either mental or physical something in the childhood thats makes the social environment differ.
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Ravenmad2000 write: What percentage of psychopaths were raised in a religious environment?
If I remember, rightly, I found many serial murderers were raised by mothers who were extremely over-bearing and fanatically religious, to the point of cruel. Charlie Manson broke the pattern...he was brought up by his grandmother who had these traits.
Am I right?
I do believe Psychopathic traits are a product of Nuture as much as nature. Ed Gein had religious fanatic parents which were very strict and oppressive.
Ted Buddy for some kind of legal thing, cant remember what, was made to address his mother as an older sister and not mother. How would that fuck up a little boy.
Generally in many Serial Killers there seems to be some Childhood degrading or abuse either mental or physical something in the childhood thats makes the social environment differ.
What percentage of psychopaths were raised in a religious environment?
If I remember, rightly, I found many serial murderers were raised by mothers who were extremely over-bearing and fanatically religious, to the point of cruel. Charlie Manson broke the pattern...he was brought up by his grandmother who had these traits.
Am I right?
What percentage of psychopaths were raised in a religious environment?
If I remember, rightly, I found many serial murderers were raised by mothers who were extremely over-bearing and fanatically religious, to the point of cruel. Charlie Manson broke the pattern...he was brought up by his grandmother who had these traits.
the test that it routinely administered is the Hare psychopathy checklist....not some quasi-philosophical question! lol This one is one of the funnier urban myths circulating. Think about it...would a psychiatrist make a diagnosis as serious as this on the basis of an answer to one question? Wouldn't a person in jail for committing multiple murders already have a diagnosis of psychopathic personality traits(amongst other things!)...could you really see a psychiatrist wasting their time administering a question like this to someone to find out a fact that is already pretty well established? Hey Nighbringer...just turn around for me for a minute *sharpens knife gleefully* lol! Just kiddin' ;)
the test that it routinely administered is the Hare psychopathy checklist....not some quasi-philosophical question! lol This one is one of the funnier urban myths circulating. Think about it...would a psychiatrist make a diagnosis as serious as this on the basis of an answer to one question? Wouldn't a person in jail for committing multiple murders already have a diagnosis of psychopathic personality traits(amongst other things!)...could you really see a psychiatrist wasting their time administering a question like this to someone to find out a fact that is already pretty well established? Hey Nighbringer...just turn around for me for a minute *sharpens knife gleefully* lol! Just kiddin' ;)
The test is flawed on many levels and extremly subjective!
You think you could determine by my answer if I was a Psychopath or not. .Considring the fact that many Psychopaths are above average intelliegnce, it wouldnt be hard to come up the wrong answer.
Not that I am a psychopath. But I do have damage in certain parts of the brain which leads to impulsive and violent behaviour. I have many characteristics which would make many consider me antisocial. I know if somebody was stupid enough to push the wrong buttons, I would have little trouble putting an axe through their head. But im also someone who can be cruel and sadistic. I cant deny the part of me which is evil. Because suppressing f it as only caused me more torment pain and suffering.
Ive had the misfortune of meeting one Psychopath in my life. Not the murdering type, more along the lines of the garden variety type as Miss Spunky put it. Never the less still dangerous enough to fuck someones life up!
He was in the army. He came from a rich family extremly well educated and loosing on any level was not an option. He was very intelligent in his methods. He provoked other members of the platoon to do stupid things which got them in trouble, It also turned out he was going around peoples rooms stealing pieces of their kit. Loosing your hat in my regiment was severly punishable . Usually crawling fifty times back and forth across a football pitch. He tended to target his biggest rivals. People who had better lockers, or were better shots. I came to his intention because of my excellent physical training ability and the fact I was always at the front on long runs. I noticed the danger signs in things he said and I managed to convice my Corparal to keep an eye on this gentleman.
The test is flawed on many levels and extremly subjective!
You think you could determine by my answer if I was a Psychopath or not. .Considring the fact that many Psychopaths are above average intelliegnce, it wouldnt be hard to come up the wrong answer.
Not that I am a psychopath. But I do have damage in certain parts of the brain which leads to impulsive and violent behaviour. I have many characteristics which would make many consider me antisocial. I know if somebody was stupid enough to push the wrong buttons, I would have little trouble putting an axe through their head. But im also someone who can be cruel and sadistic. I cant deny the part of me which is evil. Because suppressing f it as only caused me more torment pain and suffering.
Ive had the misfortune of meeting one Psychopath in my life. Not the murdering type, more along the lines of the garden variety type as Miss Spunky put it. Never the less still dangerous enough to fuck someones life up!
He was in the army. He came from a rich family extremly well educated and loosing on any level was not an option. He was very intelligent in his methods. He provoked other members of the platoon to do stupid things which got them in trouble, It also turned out he was going around peoples rooms stealing pieces of their kit. Loosing your hat in my regiment was severly punishable . Usually crawling fifty times back and forth across a football pitch. He tended to target his biggest rivals. People who had better lockers, or were better shots. I came to his intention because of my excellent physical training ability and the fact I was always at the front on long runs. I noticed the danger signs in things he said and I managed to convice my Corparal to keep an eye on this gentleman.
well folks, I'm pleased to report that Prowler is NOT a psychopath... I'm waiting for a few more guesses before I reveal the answer that a psychopath would come up with. Note that this has been tested in American jails on known psychopathic killers and almost all of them were able to give the same answer!
well folks, I'm pleased to report that Prowler is NOT a psychopath... I'm waiting for a few more guesses before I reveal the answer that a psychopath would come up with. Note that this has been tested in American jails on known psychopathic killers and almost all of them were able to give the same answer!
No, the psychopath would not view her sister as a threat, she would think that by creating a similar circumstance ie another family funeral she would see the guy again and could have a crack at him! The fact that she would kill her own sister to do it does not matter, its a means to an end, she lacks conscience and her own needs and desires come first... Still, this is an extreme example, highlights the way one type of psychopath would think ie the type that will go on to commit murder. If someone answers this question with the correct answer it does not mean they are psychopathic, just they have pretty good abstract reasoning skills! Not too many of us will wind up being the victim of a criminal psychopath, but most of us will come into contact with the garden variety psychopath at work and play at some stage.
No, the psychopath would not view her sister as a threat, she would think that by creating a similar circumstance ie another family funeral she would see the guy again and could have a crack at him! The fact that she would kill her own sister to do it does not matter, its a means to an end, she lacks conscience and her own needs and desires come first... Still, this is an extreme example, highlights the way one type of psychopath would think ie the type that will go on to commit murder. If someone answers this question with the correct answer it does not mean they are psychopathic, just they have pretty good abstract reasoning skills! Not too many of us will wind up being the victim of a criminal psychopath, but most of us will come into contact with the garden variety psychopath at work and play at some stage.
Generally a Psychopath may see the sister as a threat.
If she wanted this guy to herself, with out threat of any competition, the first person for one to kill I would think, would be the greatest rival. I.e the sister!
To Nightbringer!
Generally a Psychopath may see the sister as a threat.
If she wanted this guy to herself, with out threat of any competition, the first person for one to kill I would think, would be the greatest rival. I.e the sister!
The only thing Freud did was rehash what other psychoanalysts of the time were saying.
thats what the whole of the academic world has been doing for centuries though........most academic books and papers are just other peoples recycled ideas.............frued is no different....except for his vibrators.....probobly one of the only useful things hes done for womankind!
The only thing Freud did was rehash what other psychoanalysts of the time were saying.
thats what the whole of the academic world has been doing for centuries though........most academic books and papers are just other peoples recycled ideas.............frued is no different....except for his vibrators.....probobly one of the only useful things hes done for womankind!
btm, A woman is not a man, a woman is a woman... and no, women we're really made from the rib of a man. Regardless, what I said was that men aren't women. In the case of Freud's studies, gender becomes very important. When Freud himself decided to study only women, he basically admitted he believed gender to be an important variable in his study. In doing so, he essentially negates any validity to conclusions he wants to make about men. He can't have it both ways... though I do hear that he liked to swing both ways.
btm, A woman is not a man, a woman is a woman... and no, women we're really made from the rib of a man. Regardless, what I said was that men aren't women. In the case of Freud's studies, gender becomes very important. When Freud himself decided to study only women, he basically admitted he believed gender to be an important variable in his study. In doing so, he essentially negates any validity to conclusions he wants to make about men. He can't have it both ways... though I do hear that he liked to swing both ways.
There is also large scale debate on the actual time frame, physiology and reasoning behind the theory in general. Far too much, in fact, for it to be considered a sound psychological principal.
Psychology is kind of a circle that goes round and round and never really gets any where.
In Psychology its very difficult to control and measure the variables.!
As we are dealing with thought proccesses, this makes things that more difficult.
Which makes doing research in the area of Psychoanalysis difficult. Especially when six Psychologists may all have a diiferent interpretation of a dream.
Freud in many respects was especially sloppy in his methods. His work cant really be proven. Like many theories in psychology that in my eyes still have some grounding.
Anyone who looks hard enough can see conflicts between the ID and the superego, and how Biological drives and ones conscience can conflict. Its just a case if people are observant enough to see it. Most people in life generally arent as self aware as they would like to think and believe.
Another example of a conflict betweem the ID and the Superego I present here.
My first Girlfriend said she never wanted kids. She was extremly driven in her career and honestly believed it wasnt a world for bringing kids into.
Thats the conclusion the Ego came to, strongly driven by a Superego argument, based on her morals and belief systems.
How ever her Subconscious seemed to tell a very different story!
She more than once had dreams about me fukin other women and me making that Women Pregnant!
This was a manifestion of her Subconscious fears put forth in her dreams. She feared that I was going to give my seed to another women and give the other female the baby see wanted. Weather females deny it or not, its part if their Biology and their ID to want kids.
Her ID manifested itself in dream state.
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Reliquary write:
There is also large scale debate on the actual time frame, physiology and reasoning behind the theory in general. Far too much, in fact, for it to be considered a sound psychological principal.
Psychology is kind of a circle that goes round and round and never really gets any where.
In Psychology its very difficult to control and measure the variables.!
As we are dealing with thought proccesses, this makes things that more difficult.
Which makes doing research in the area of Psychoanalysis difficult. Especially when six Psychologists may all have a diiferent interpretation of a dream.
Freud in many respects was especially sloppy in his methods. His work cant really be proven. Like many theories in psychology that in my eyes still have some grounding.
Anyone who looks hard enough can see conflicts between the ID and the superego, and how Biological drives and ones conscience can conflict. Its just a case if people are observant enough to see it. Most people in life generally arent as self aware as they would like to think and believe.
Another example of a conflict betweem the ID and the Superego I present here.
My first Girlfriend said she never wanted kids. She was extremly driven in her career and honestly believed it wasnt a world for bringing kids into.
Thats the conclusion the Ego came to, strongly driven by a Superego argument, based on her morals and belief systems.
How ever her Subconscious seemed to tell a very different story!
She more than once had dreams about me fukin other women and me making that Women Pregnant!
This was a manifestion of her Subconscious fears put forth in her dreams. She feared that I was going to give my seed to another women and give the other female the baby see wanted. Weather females deny it or not, its part if their Biology and their ID to want kids.
